After several positive comments I decided to download EAGLE and see what it was like. I've experimented only briefly but where are the plain old resistors found in the library? I see lots of different resistor packs but where to get simple individual resistors is not apparent. (I shouldn't try these things late in the day!) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads