At 10:18 AM 2/16/02 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Spehro, Hi! >Yep, unfortunately I still have to hand assemble some stuff.. 0603s are >about my limit there I think :) Sometimes I think its a shame that the 1206 >or 0805 size resistor arrays are so expensive (compared to the individual >ones).. 4 or 8 resistors in one go! I calculate the break-even at two resistors for the 4-resistor 8-pin arrays! I use LOTS of them, even for analog stuff. The price is good in quantity, and the area/mounting cost is low. Plenty of sources. They can be hand- soldered easily enough with a bit of practice. Yes, I agree that 0603 is about as low as I want to go by hand. Unfortunately, the PCB designs are committed to the size, so you can't properly just use whatever's available at the moment without re-laying out the board. 8-( Not a problem if you're making cell phones with a 6-month design life, but for the rest of us.. >I wonder how long it will be until its easier and faster to just print the >resistors directly on the PCB during manufacture or assembly.. Does anyone >know if this is being seriously developed? I know there are a bunch of 3D >printing efforts.. It's difficult- they used to make hybrids by screen-printing resistors and firing on alumina. All the variables- it was hard to get 30% tolerance without trimming. The cheap little 5% and 1% resistors are not bad for almost free! But for consumer stuff, I think there are organic (low temperature) compounds that you can print on and "fire" at reasonable temperatures- like the carbon stuff that they use to replace gold-plating for silicone key contacts, and for printed jumpers on low-end PCBs. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com 9/11 United we Stand -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu