> an RC should still start up faster AN607 says 0 time for RC start-up. A 36k resistor in ER mode should be close to 4MHz and Gabriel had 4MHz internal RC as an option. I guess he's not overly fussy about the exact frequency -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu