Rodrigo wrote: >Hi all, > >After reading the benefit of an oscilloscope, i took one that is not used in >my work to debug (is this used in hardware too ?) a pic circuit. I have ZERO >experience with scopes, so, and i attach the probe to Ch1, the probe has a >clip, i grip it to gnd and the pin of the probe to what was i really want to >measure... BUT, i have a 50Hz superimposed over my signal, and showme not >really what i expect, then measuring the line ac make some spark in the >probe (the scope can accept 400 vac). Using a tester, and the scope off, i >discover that the clip is connected to the line ground (0 ohm), and i >suppose that the test probe was isolated from the main line. I'm wrong and i >must go to buy "measuring with a scope for newbies" or the scope is bad?, i >don't have none to ask in my work, because is not used and is there only by >a mistake Ouch ! Yes, it's normal for the CRO probe to be referenced to mains earth. If you want to measure points at mains potential you will need to use a isolated probe adapter or similar. The scope and/or the probes may have been damaged now. I'm not familiar with your 'scope. Measuring mains without the appropriate probes/adapters can be tricky & quite dangerous. Regards... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.