OK, listen up, he explained: The "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" story is a myth. The "Port Out Starboard Home" story is a myth. Probably the "Prisioners Of Her Majesty's Service" story is a myth too. Acronyms of any kind are a pretty recent concept. Colin Subject: POMS Just to clarify, The term POM's comes from the original word "POHMS" which stands for "Prisioners Of Her Majesty's Service"; in other words a convict. So a POM is actually an Australian Convict. NOT an Englishman. Get it right Man ! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.