"Audio is ELF. An audio-frequency circuit still radiates electromagnetic waves, just not very efficiently." "Very incorrect in all but perhaps a very few ill-designed products. Most of us responsible for actual RF design don't call possible 'spuriuous emissions of AF energy' over 100 dB down from a 'box' "radiation of electromagnetic waves". Leakage flux perhaps (as from a power xfmr) - but not 'radiation'. I realize I'm addressing a majority digi-head crowd - some of this discussion is only underscoring that point. No offense meant to any digi-head on the list. We couldn't possibly do what we do in the field of RF today without uC's or the talented programmers and designers who actually make those devices 'sing' and 'dance' ... Jim" Jim, others: I'm afraid your not quite correct here Jim; as stated by others, there is no magic frequency where AF ends and RF begins - it is most definitely blurred. What is important is Efficiency, as efficiency for each purpose varies with frequency. But there definitely are audio frequency "RF" transmitters, and these are not "ill-designed products." For example, the U.S. Navy uses what most would consider as "Audio Frequencies" in their equipment designed to communicate with submerged submarines. Though efficiency is horrendous, the importance of the task makes the inefficiencies acceptable. Also, you should not assume that the audience cannot rationally consider the topic, as many have mixed disciplines. While I probably could not match your level of expertise, I have been workinging with RF as an amateur (HAM) since the '70s. I'm sure there are many readers that have even more experience than I. Bruce. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.