Re-sent as I forgot the tag in my previous message: Hi All I have been programming with PICSTART+ programmer and MPLAB for quite a while. As I have now moved to SOIC (16F628, 16F876/7), I wish to do in-circuit programming. The prices for adaptors (SOIC to DIL) are absolutely crazy! Would it be possible to use the PS+ with an adapter cable to programme the SOIC's in-circuit, and if so, could somebody please give me some pointers on how to go about it? TYIA Regards Chris Albrecht -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.