Hmmmm, My original question was basically, is there anywhere I can buy a bitscope other than 'Down Under'. So far, I've learnt nothing about this so I caontacted bitscope myself; they have kits on special, I'll probably place an order with them soon. However, I have learnt that: - some Auzzies still harbour a grudge again the POMs - people eat Kagaroo steaks and they taste good! - some POMs still harbour a grudge against the Auzzies - some people (me included) are amused by all this ;-) I'll let y'all know how the bitscope thing goes. Ted (A Brit / POM / whinger that now lives in the land of the free :) PS $1.14 per gallon - eat your heart out POMs! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.