OK, I'm showing signs of my age now. In my earliest days, we made carriers for the wave solder machines that served two purposes: 1. let us keep the chains at the same width all day and night (it took over 20 minutes for the chain to travel the length of the machine, so this saved lots of set-up time); 2. held multiple quantities at once. Later we began to design in either perfs, scoring, or routing between panels. Then to the wave & wash machines, then either to be snapped apart by hand, or at one point we used a small machine that gave a bit of mechanical advantage to snap panels apart. That was later abandoned because of the high incidence of damage to populated boards. At 7 - 10,000 boards each day, it was a bit labor intensive to do so by hand. I can't think of a production facility that still saws boards, and mechanical shears would require large unpopulated sections for the tooling. Just doesn't make sense. Sounds like it would be a neat idea for low-to-mid volume assembly though- perhaps router-cutting stuffed boards - is that what you are referring to?. Are there any articles around that show how this process might actually work effectively? I would love to get up to speed. My experience in manufacturing goes back to the '70's and could use some updating. Chris On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:21:04 -0800, you wrote: >Forgive my asking, but why would anyone ever want to cut stuffed boards? So you can stuff and then flow-solder a whole panel at a time - a very common practice in industry. >C > >>If you are cutting boards that are stuffed >beware -- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics