All I've been able to find on the net is windows software. Is there a DOS program that will dump a HEX file to the Warp13? Here's what I did find: PICSTART programmer - since the Warp13 looks like this device in MPLAB, it may work for the DOS version... http://www.cosmodog.com/pic/ Barry -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads