That inverter is the amplifier used to make the discrete crystal run, as far as I remember at college u need a positive feedback loop and unity gain amplifier to make the circuit oscillate, the good thing about crystals is that they are very stable oscillators so they are accurate for timing applications.=20 U don't have to worry about this to make your project work. -----Original Message----- From: John Sambrook [mailto:JohnS@COMMON-SENSE.COM]=20 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:46 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Can I use an Epson SG-531P oscillator with a 16F84 PIC ... Hi, I'm looking at my first PIC project, and need some advice on the following. Rather than fooling around with a discrete crystal and a pair of caps for my oscillator circuit, can I just use a pre-packaged oscillator, like the Epson SG531-P line, with the OUT (pin 5) connected directly to OSC1 on the PIC? The PIC datasheet for the 16F8X parts (DS30430c, pg. 40), in figure 8-4, shows "clock from ext. system" going through an inverter before connecting to OSC1. What's the purpose of this inverter? Sorry if these questions are simple, but I'm a relative newbie with digital circuits. Thanks, John -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu