i changed the topic header since i am definately branching out from the original topic ISO as in ISO9000 etc? that is scary, because if you have ever been through what it takes to gain that certification, you will know it means NOTHING about product quality, just that every product that rolls out the door will be the same. ISO9000/9001 is a papertrail. an audit process. says nothing about the how good something is built. i know there are other ISO standards like i think 14000 for manufacturing processes tries to address some of the quality issues. but just on face value is something is ISO certified, it doesn't necessarily mean dick. that being said, i am going to have a look in my CEC code book to see what it says about the Grn/Ye ground colours. anyways, my two cents worth. moose > And, yes, by order of law (the U.S. participates in the ISO program through > a number of sanctioned agencies, and while it's pretty common knowledge > that ANSI and ISO standards are being harmonized - many UL standards are > being re-labeled as ANSI/UL - all products commercially sold in the us are > SUPPOSED to be in compliance with ANSI/UL safety standards. There is a > major effort ongoing to harmonize these standards until there can be > agreement on one set, such as ISO, as if that will ever happen...It's > starting to smell like international law making) we'll all be seeing the > same color wires - inside devices, but I wouldn't look for much change in > structure wiring any time soon. I don't recall seeing anything about GRN/YE > grounds in my latest copy of the NEC...and the NFPA that publishes it isn't > about to let anyone tell them what to write.... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics