Understood. My it's suddenly quiet in here.... I can't imagine the effort it takes to keep the list going. Many thanks and hats off to you, James and Dale. To have to deal with this aggravation during the same week that you realized you were in the process of getting ripped-off must be an extra bummer. Post a snail mail address please, Dale. We would all like to send gifts of thanks. Isn't that right everyone? (no anthrax jokes, please!) BTW, I am not related to either Dale or James... Chris -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of James Newton. Admin 3 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:16 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [ADMIN]: I'm not REALLY a jerk (was Re: [PIC]:Hamming codes) Importance: High Mr. Kelly, (and other list members) after reading all of the below, do you now understand what happened and why? Do you see the Dale was doing his job and that you have been placed in a bad position due to the incompetence of your ISP and NOT by Dale or any other member of the PICList? If you don't understand this, please explain why and I will try to explain it again. BTW: I never got the email you apparently sent to me (the one that started "It's with GREAT DISMAY"...) Apparently your ISP ate it. I would personally recommend getting a free email account with Yahoo or hotmail or whatever. They do know how to run an email server. As a matter of fact, Dale is working on sending me a *nix box that I will pay hosting fees to connect to the internet and I hope to be able to use it to host email for people who are PICList members. You might be able to use that box. Finally, We are VERY indebted to Dale for putting up with a lot of pressure from MIT and their list server admins regarding the volume of deliver errors caused by people with ISPs like yours which has enabled us to keep the list running. They feel that we had too many errors and were going to close the PICList as a result. Let me say that again: The PICList exists today because Dale spend a butt load of his personal time with NO 'efing thanks from anyone doing exactly what he did to your account. Hello? Is anyone hearing that? The PICList almost got shut off and Dale saved it. Period. I should have said something about that to the list much earlier. Dale deserves all our gratitude. Tell him so. I want to make this a public statement because the same thing may happen to other list members as a result of a mess up at their ISP. If it does, yell at your ISP, not at Dale. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu