I work for a place called Peripheron, who does this sort of thing. If you like I can give you a contact. We've done work for CERN :) I'm off in new product development, and about 2000 miles from the factory, so I can't give you much direct data myself. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu