Just for the record, ASCIICad is a Win32 app, so it does not actually run on any platform. It just happens to run on platforms like XP. If you want something cross platform, check out the Java links in my other message. Al Williams AWC * Floating point A/D http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak9.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Francisco Ares > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:15 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [EE]: Ascii text "drawing" software - joing forces > > > Perhaps it is too simple and easy to say this, but why don't > you both join together to build a software that is as > optimized as Roman's and runs on any hardware/OS as Al's? > Some details about "visual effects" and "small size" should > not be the most importat decision factors, but overall performance. > > I am saying this because Roman and Al had the idea of sharing > their skills with us, and I think it is really a good idea to > have a program to draw simple diagrams, it will help all > piclisters, and also all usenet electronics groups . > > May I suggest http://sourceforge.net or http://freshmeat.net > as a home for that project? > > Francisco > > > Al Williams wrote: > > >Again, I feel really bad. My intent was not to steal anything from > >Roman and I credit his idea on the Web page. I just wanted something > >similar that would run on my hardware -- it seems like quite a few > >people can't get the other program to run (including me). I > even did a > >Web search for something similar before writing my own (and > yes, there > >is a Java applet and several other programs on the Web that does the > >same thing, but didn't have a lot of the features I wanted; > one of them > >is $6 shareware). > > > >http://www.jave.de/ - Free, big, and does most everything. > Really more > >than Roman or I have even thought about attempting. > > > >http://www.sigsoftware.com/emaileffects/index.html > > > >http://www.goldbay.com/joeh/AsciiDraw.html - I thought about > starting > >with this guy's source code, but I wanted a break from Java. > > > >http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-4003619-100-874098.html? > tag=st.dl. > >1 > >0001-103-1.lst-7-2.874098 > > > > > > > >I'm not selling ASCIICad so I'm not profiting off Roman's > idea, which > >he was (mostly) giving away anyway. > > > >His library ideas are far in advance of anything I will do with > >ASCIICAD, and I hope he will continue to develop his > program. Roman's > >right that my program does not capture what a lot of people > on the list > >asked for. I wrote it for myself and so it fits my needs and > runs on my > >hardware. Since Roman was good enough to share his creation > freely, I > >thought it would be good to do the same. In retrospect, I'd probably > >just keep it to myself :-) > > > >Again Roman, my apologies and I regret you feel like > something has been > >taken from you or that my attitude was (quoting from your > message): "ha > >ha I can do that too" -- nothing could be further from the truth. > > > >I have certainly had similar experiences. Those of you who are hams > >might remember my PSKGNR software (also free). It work with > G3PLX's PSK > >software and at one time I estimate that 70-80% of the hams > using PSK31 > >used my software. Now there is other software that works by > itself and > >only a small group of people still use PSKGNR. If I had not > been giving > >it away, I might have found time to develop an "all in one" > version of > >PSKGNR. But I was giving it away, so I was glad to see even > more free > >software that my program had influenced. I even gave some of > the other > >authors advice. > > > >So again, accept my apologies Roman. If you like, I won't > announce any > >new changes I make on the list. > > > >Al Williams > >AWC > >* Easy RS-232 Prototyping http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>I beg to differ. Here's the events as I see them. > >>Making a small powerful ascii program for piclist > >> > > > >-- > >http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > >mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu