> They just figure you owe them X amount of money per year, so if you skip > an upgrade they just get the money then. It's kind of a subscription > thing, they just don't call it that. The thing I really dislike about the upgrades, at least the old ones, is if the drive in your upgraded system dies. I used to regularly upgrade and then a few Winxx versions ago my disk died. I ended up having to install my original "full version" OS and then run through the upgrade CD's. Of course then I had to download the online updates but that's another story. Ever since I've grit my teeth and bought the full versions. Tim -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics