I disagree...the documentation says that the 18 pin socket is for the 16c52, 16c54, 16c56, and 16c58. It also mentions that 18 pin serially programmed devices should be in the 40 pin socket, top justified at pin one. That said, I haven't tried it yet :) Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Jay Hanson wrote: > > To program a 16f628 with warp 13, tou have to (add) and use the 18 pin > socket in the upper-right-corner of the board. > > Jay -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads