I've done wire-wrap in the past... but what are T-44 pins? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dilatush" To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: Noise on Vcc causes PIC to Reset??? Tim McDonough wrote... >Grounding is especially tough when a solderless breadboard is being >used. I've seen prople who struggle getting stuff to work on them >because they ignore every rule imagineable: wimpy grounds, bypass caps >nowhere near the IC's, unused pins left floating, long wires >(antennas!) snaking all over the place... I used to use those things until I decided that, whatever their value in terms of convenience, their flaws were causing me more work--in the form of debugging--than they were saving. Nearly all of my breadboarding work anymore is done on 0.1" perfboard with wire-wrap sockets for the ICs and T-44 pins for the discretes, and using AWG14 or AWG16 busbar for the grounds, either gridded (for digital) or in a star topology (for analog). Using this method I find I can build stuff almost as fast as I could with the solderless breadboards, and end up with far fewer headaches and, in the end, less time wasted. Another factor is that in my hobby stuff I like to work on a large number of projects at once, sometimes a dozen or more; and those solderless breadboards aren't cheap. Dave Dilatush -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads