On 10-Jan-02 Alan B. Pearce wrote: >>If the transistor has a beta (Ic/Ib) of 100, and the collector current is >>300mA, then the base current is 3mA, NOT 30mA. I'm not sure where the > "10% of >>the collector current" rule came from, but I think it's wrong. > > You will not get a transistor to saturate if you use the published beta > value to get the base current. Transistors in saturation always have the > base overdriven to force the device right into saturation. In the case of > bipolar transistors this is known as "forced beta", as the common way of > doing it is to drive the base with a current that is many times what is > normally expected for the same collector current in linear operation. I guess I've been doing too much analogue & RF design work ! Indeed for saturation the base needs to be overdriven. In this application I would probably go for a darlington pair, but if we are going to use two transistors I would use a NPN with emitter to ground and PNP with it's emitter to the +ve supply and a couple of current limit resistors in each base. This also gets over the problem with PIC output clamp diodes if trying to switch a supply greater that the PICs supply voltage. Peter. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body