I understand that the constant ratio is very important, I will concentrate on this point. Also I am trying to make a sensor with gain (f.ex. by leaving the collector unshorted to B and using it as a current sink on a timing capacitor - or to drive a second transistor in current mirror style with 'bad' thermal contact between them). This is the next planned step. I think that I'll use a single JFET+R current source, with a split R shunted by a PIC pin when necessary. I have had good results with those before (<30ppm/C without even trying hard - maybe I was lucky with the R tempco ;-). I found very few pointers on beta change with temperature. I'd be grateful for some ideas ;-). thanks, Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics