> > 100pF would be better
>
>PIC16F84A for development
> it's data sheet (again)

Data sheet recommends 68-100pF for 32k on an F84. I generally
keep stocks of 100pF, and 22pF for everything else. There's a
summary of PICs and clocks here -

http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/jal/microcontrollerclockoptions.htm?k
ey=crystals&from=

I thought David Van Horn  (www.dvanhorn.org) had a crystals
page. If it wasn't him, someone around here does/did

> I'm sorry I wasted everybody's time on this. I was just bouncing
> it off the list to see if I should expect better

If you don't ask, you don't get ;-)

> You are in NZ? I'm about 2 hours and a few days sleep
> behind you (I assume) in Sydney.

Cheers for being unselfish and sharing the 2nd-hand smoke.
My ex-brother-in-law dodged staff cuts in the Melbourne
office by transferring recently to .... Sydney he he. 40 degrees,
smoke, thunderstorms, chaos. I'm revelling in Schadenfreude
at his individual predicament (can you tell I'm not his biggest
fan ?)

> No building decks over here in this heat!

Almost a right of passage down this way isn't it ? You aren't
a bloke until you've made a deck for the rellies !!

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