Ahem...I sent too soon. Another question I have about ICSP is how do I deal with it on the 16f628 and the MCLR? In my current project I'm not anticipating any problems as MCLR is set as digital i/o and not used, so I should just be able to hook it right up to the ICSP with no problems. But in the future, should I design in breakable connections like on the RB6 and RB7? Again, in my current project, none of the ICSP pins are in use (other than +5v and GND), so what would happen if I left the ICSP cable attached while I ran the circuit? Would it damage the circuit or the programmer? Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Peter Anderson wrote: > > + 5VDC ----- 10K -------->|------- Term 1 > > When Vpp is applied to term 1, the diode is reverse > biased. > > You do have to power the PIC during the programming. > > Peter H Anderson, http://www.phanderson.com > WARP13 Reseller -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads