But dont monitors also essentially operate on 12 VDC, which is then cranked up for the EHT etc.? ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Adam Davis" To: Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [EE]: Small UPS > The newer motherboards (ATX) generally start out on 250W power supplies > which provide up to: > +5v at 27A > -5v at 0.5A > +5v at 1A (Always on) > +12v at 9A > -12v at 0.5A > +3.3v at 14A > > The thing you're missing is that to supply 27 and 14 amps requires a > good bit of design in a switching power supply. Of course, your > particular setup may require less, but the cost in time and money to > design it is much more than the cost of a decent external 120V UPS - > which can also power your monitor. > > Given that you probably aren't about to create a new PS for your > monitor, and the computer is useless without the monitor, you may just > think twice about making an internal system, instead of external. > > -Adam > > Anand Dhuru wrote: > > >This is something I've always thought about. Essentially what the PC > >requires are +/-12Volts, and +/- 5V. Why dont they come out with a standard > >for a 'power supply port'? Since the current requirement for the -ve > >voltages is minimal, wouldnt it make a lot of sense to just connect the > >motherboard to a battery thru proper rectifiers to block current when the > >power is present? The most expensive electronic stage in a conventional UPS, > >the inverter, could be completely eliminated. The battery could have an > >external charger, or the 'port' could have a source trickling back from the > >SMPS to charge it. The negative voltages could be derived from the battery > >as well. > > > >I do have a feeling i am missing something here, but what is it? > > > >Anand > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Peter Mcalpine" > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 5:55 AM > >Subject: [EE]: Small UPS > > > > > >>Hi All and happy new year :) > >> > >>I want to make a small UPS, one that would be able to run my > >>PC for a little while if the power failed (enough so it can > >>shutdown it self down properly). > >> > >>2 ways I have thought of doing it. > >>1st would be a 240V to 12Vbattery back to 240V that can be run > >>in series with the incoming supply. > >>2nd would be to modify the existing switch mode computer power > >>supply to include the battery. > >> > >>I would like to do the second method as that sounds easier :) > >> > >>Any suggestions or pointers to websites that may help me out? > >> > >>Thanks! > >>Peter Mcalpine > >> > >>-- > >>http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > >>mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > >> > >> > >> > > > >-- > >http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > >[PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics