Hmm, oh dear, a very old laptop. For the memory stick, try www.ebay.com. = there is loads of good second hand stuff there (even cheap laptops !) For = the schematic software, Orcard version 3 is what I use on a 286 ! A bit = slow, but if you don't do huge circuits, then it's quite okay. If you = can't fand version 3 anywhere, I can try to email it to you to play = with.=20 Regards. John Norman >>> taito@TERRA.COM.BR 12/30/01 06:29 AM >>> Ok, this is a poor man's question, but anyway, what the heck? ;o) I have an OOOOOOOOOLDDDDDDDD Thinkpad notebook - a 486 SL 25 (that = is actually clocked at 24 MHz - dunno why!) that I use as my "got nothing = to do" machine. When I "got nothing to do" at work, I take this notebook = and start writing PIC programs wherever I want (and I have a 110V outlet = around). Of course it is slow as it can't be. And has only 127 MB of hard = disk (anyone sparing a 525 or greater HD for notebooks around? :oD). But = it works, or at least try to ;o) Has 20 mb (36 when I find an old 32MB 72p = SIMM stick) of RAM and, as simple as it could be, can have a lot of work = doing on that. I use the Easytrax for DOS, when I need to do a PCB, etc. Of = course I'd like to go further - I want to do schematics and PCBs on it. = But I can think of no program that would run on this beast. Anyone knows a = program - like circad, etc - that runs: - in a 486/25 - small as it can be, since I have only 5 mb of HD spared - do schems/routing/pcb - is cheap or free (asking too much...) Looking for sugestions ;o) BTW: I'm looking for an old battery for the ThinkPad 350C - even = died. I haven't it's battery, and I want to be able to use it without the = psu. Even the box of the battery helps, because I can find locally the = intenal NiCad (or NiMh) cells to fit on it. Also, the top cover of the = same notebook would be nice, since mine is lookin like a web, with so much = cracks and fixes ;o) ---8<---Corte aqui---8<---- Alexandre Souza taito@terra.com.br http://planeta.terra.com.br/lazer/pinball/ ---8<---Corte aqui---8<---- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.