> But how large were your digits? They wanted 30cm by 5cm segments, which worked out to 3 rows of 40 5mm LEDs at 0.3 inch spacing. So each digit was around 70cm high by 45 wide. Putting the LEDs further apart just didn't look right so it needed that many. They choked on the price, but never followed up on the magnetic idea. Not a clue what, if anything, they ended up with. If you need only two digits sounds like yours is still feasible in LEDs. Have you thought about 12V fluorescent tubes ? Length and shape is right, don't know about brightness though -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu