hi All I see that most of the list people recommend the 16F628 (as a startup pic for newbies or as a replacement for other rare pics) my question is (for a guy that didn't write its own programs yet) can someone explain in simple language, what are the differences between them? can I implement a program, lets say, a program that someone wrote to 16F84? what changes I need to do ? or just program it and it will fit? and where I can find tutorials for newbies on the 'net? and I mean for real NEWBIES! :-) Happy new year to ALL! and may god bless you with happy programming and bugless YEAR! Tal -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu