Yeah, one of my many clones aound the world! I'm in Canada, I think he's in the southern hemisphere. I should really use Pegasus! David Brent Brown wrote: > That's interesting - in Pegasus Mail only the first 30 or so links > are highlighted then it appears to sigh and give up on the rest. PM > was written by David Harris - that's no the same you is it? > > On 24 Dec 2001 at 9:28, David P. Harris wrote: > > > Hi- > > Here's the list. > > I just did a global substitution on the www's. > > David > > > > AAEON Electronics http://www.aaeon.com PC/104 > > Accelent sys http://www.accelent.com PCMCIA > > Acces IO http://www.acces-usa.com > > Acqutek http://www.acqu.com Backplane cameras displays pentium ACT > > Tecnico http://www.acttechnico.com PCI Actisys > > http://www.actisys.com ADAC http://www.adac.com PCI Adaptive > > Systems, Inc. http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86 Adastra > > http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE Adtron http://www.adtron.com > > Advanced Design System http://www.advdesignsolutions.com Advanced > > Digital Logic, Inc. http://www.digitallogic.ch Embedded PC > > Advantech http://www.advantech.com Aerotech > > http://www.aerothechusa.com Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME > > Algorythmic http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA Alphi > > Technology http://www.alphitech.com PCI PC/104 VME Alta > > Technology http://www.altatech.com PCI Mezzanine AM Reasearch > > http://www.amresearch.com Embedded Control American Predator > > http://www.americanpreditor.com Ampro Computers http://www.ampro.com > > PC, PC104, EBX analog devices http://www.analog.com antona > > http://www.antona.com Apex Embedded Systems > > http://www.apexembedded.com Applied Data Systems > > http://www.flatpanels.com WinCE Flatpanels Applied Integrations > > http://www.appliedi.com Appor http://www.appro.com network > > appliances Arbor Technology http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm > > pc/104 Arcom Control Systems http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3 Arise > > http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com Ashware > > http://www.ashware.com TPU Atlas Communication Engines > > http://www.ace360.com Avantech http://www.avantech.com > > Pentium AVR Sprint http://www.embedsys.com Axiom Manufacturing > > http://www.axman.com Axiom Technology http://www.axiomtek.com > > pci, Data acquisition, pentium Bagotronix > > http://www.bagotronix.com Embedded Control -188 Basicon Inc. > > http://www.basicon.com Bipom http://www.bipom.com 8051 Bittware > > Research Systems http://www.bittware.com Blue earth research > > http://www.blueearthresearch.com 8051, 8052, Basic boser > > http://www.boser.com x86 BVM limited http://www.bvmltd.com Carlo > > Gavazzi http://www.carlogavazzi.com Catalyst Enterprises > > http://www.catalyst-ent.com Celerity Systems > > http://www.csidaq.com Cell Computing http://www.cellcomputing.com > > CETIA http://www.cetia.com Cetia http://www.cetia.com Coactive > > networks http://www.coactive.com COMARK > > http://www.comarkcorp.com CompuLab http://www.compulab.co.il > > PC 486CORE Concur systems http://www.concursys.com Connecticut > > Micro computers http://www.2cmc.com networking and swiches > > Corelis http://www.corelis.com Cyclone Microsystems > > http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME Densan http://www.densan.com > > cPCI VME Densitron http://www.densitron.com rugged, > > pentium Digital OEM Business Segment > > http://www.digital.com/info/oem Dy 4 Systems inc > > http://www.dy4.com VME SBC Dynamic Engineering > > mezzanine, PC/104,PCI Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC EMAC > > http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37 Embedded Support Tools Corp > > http://www.estc.com dev tools Embedex http://www.embedex.com > > Embedtec http://www.embedetec.com PCI ISA EMJ > > emjembedded.com PC104 EMS http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104 > > Epson Electornic http://www.eea.epson.com Expert Electronics > > http://www.expert-tw.com Force Computers > > http://www.forcecomputers.com Gateworks http://www.gateworks.com > > General Micro Systems http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus > > coldfire Gespac http://www.gespac.com Global American > > http://www.global American.inc Hectronic > > http://www.hectronic.com HiTech Equipment Corp http://www.hte.com > > SBC Emmulators 188 8051 Ibase http://www.ibase-I.com.tw pc104 > > I-Bus http://www.ibus.com Industrial Computers > > http://www.or-computers.com Industrial CPU Systems > > http://www.icpu.com Inside Technolgy USA http://www.inside-us.com > > Intec Automation http://www.steroidmicro.com embedded Power > > PC Interlogic http://www.infoview.com SBC Backplanes, VME > > Itox http://www.itox.com JED Microsystems jedmicro.com > > Jkmicrosystems http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux KG Systems > > http://www.kgsystems.com tiny tiger Kinnetic Computers Corp > > http://www.kin.com wirelwess WinCE Lanner > > http://www.lannerinc.com ISA PC/104 PICmg Libbert > > http://www.libbert-at.com consultant, developer industrial sys > > MATRIX corp. http://www.matrix.com Rugged WinCE MCSI > > http://www.mcsi1.com CP Compatible Megatel Computer Corp > > http://www.megatel.ca PCI PC/104 -332 Micro Computer Specialists > > http://www.mcsil.com micro Design http://www.microdesignco.com > > PCI PC/104 Micro Industries http://www.microindustries.com > > Micro Vention http://www.microvention.com micro bench tool kit > > for home embedded elec Micro/sys http://www.embeddedsys.com > > PC/104 Pentium Small 8051 Microbus http://www.microbus.com > > Microdigital software software Micromint > > http://www.micromint.com embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC PicStic > > Midwest Micro-Tek http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com 188 > > controller used by Artcturus Momentum computers > > http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI Mosaic Industries > > http://www.mosaic-industries.com touch Motorola Computer group > > http://www.mcg.mot.com MVS http://www.mvsweb.com National > > Instruments http://www.natinst.com measurement New Micros, Inc. > > http://www.newmicros.com Forth Nu Horizons > > http://www.nuhorizons.com passive components manufactured by > > Nippon Industries Co., Ltd nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com Octagon > > Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com rugged, palm, PC104 (bad guys) > > OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com Onset > > http://www.onsetcomp.com data loggers, -332 O'S systems > > http://www.ossystems.net Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com > > Hobbiest, PIC PC engines http://www.pcengines.com Pep Modular > > Computers http://www. Phytec http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/ > > 8051 x86 PLC http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control > > system Pond http://www.pond.ie quake Modular technologies > > http://www.hypertechnologies.com Rabbit Rabbitsemiconductor.com Core > > tool modules with ethernet Radisys http://www.radisys.com Pentium > > "total communication solution" Real Time Devices > > http://www.rtduse.com Recortec http://www.recortec.com > > Pentium Remote Processing > > http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com measurement 188 RES > > http://www.RS485.com Rigel http://www.rigelcorp.com 8051 RLC > > http://www.rlc.com RMV http://www.RMV.com SBC Designs > > http://www.sbcdesigns.com scsi, RAID SBS http://www.sbs.com > > Sea level http://www.sealevel.com Sinetic > > http://www.sinetics.com rugged Sirius Microsystems > > http://www.siriusmicro.com Pic Tools Site Player > > http://www.siteplayer.com data acquisition Sky Computers > > http://www.sky.com Smart Modular Technologies > > http://www.smartm.com Falsh 500 products Square1 > > http://www.square1industries.com celeron, 786 steatite > > http://www.staetite.co.uk Pentium synergy micro systems > > http://www.synergymicro.com PCI, VME Systran http://www.systran.com > > DSP Technoland http://www.technoland.com Technologic Systems > > http://www.t-systems.com Teknor Industrial Computers, Inc. > > http://www.teknor.com PC on Board tempustech > > http://www.tempustech.com Tern http://www.tern.com > > microcontrollers -188 Themis Computer http://www.themis.com SPARC VME > > Toronto Microelectronics - TME http://www.tme-inc.com Trenton > > http://www.trentonprocessors.com ISA PCI Triangle Reasearch > > http://www.tri-plc.com PLC uclinux http://www.uclinux.com linux > > coldfire Versa Logic http://www.versalogic.com PC/104, > > STD32BUS Vesta Technology http://www.vestatech.com > > versatile PIC based, low power, w/ powerful Basic & animated remote > > debug. web site contains schematics, datasheets, and manuals vigilant > > http://www.vigilanttech.com PMC Motion Vista Controls Corp. > > http://www.vistacc.com > > > > VMIC http://www.vmic.com > > Weeder weedtech.com/ modular motion control > > Win Enterprise http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE > > windriver software > > Winsys http://www.winsystems.com PC/104 > > xtech http://www.xtechusa.com > > ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com > > Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million > > Z-World http://www.zworld.com embedded control & ethernet, -188 & > > -074* zykronix http://www.zykronix.com PC compatible > > > > Mina Nichols wrote: > > > > HI. > > EG3 http://http://www.cera2.com/index.html is pretty popular but I > > don't like > > them > > because their rating systems is very much influenced by paid ads. > > Of course magazines buyer's guides tend to have lots of information > > laid out in detailed charts, but they are also inclined to only tell > > you about companies that have paid their fees, besides, either yo > > get the mag or you don't. You can't just go find it when you need > > it. My company, Vesta Techonolgy makes versatile, low-power, > > pic-based SBCs and I think that we do an excellent job of giving you > > all the information you might want on our web site (but then I > > maintain the web site, so I'm biased). our site is > > http://www.vestatech.com. sorry I don't have a perfect answer for > > you. However I do have this nifty chart of our competitors and > > their web sites: Company Web site Key words AAEON Electronics > > http://www.aaeon.com PC/104 Accelent sys > > http://www.accelent.com PCMCIA Acces IO > > http://www.acces-usa.com Acqutek http://www.acqu.com Backplane > > cameras displays pentium ACT Tecnico http://www.acttechnico.com > > PCI Actisys http://www.actisys.com ADAC http://www.adac.com > > PCI Adaptive Systems, Inc. http://www.adaptivesystems.com x86 > > Adastra http://www.adastra.com PC/104 PCI WinCE Adtron > > http://www.adtron.com Advanced Design System > > http://www.advdesignsolutions.com Advanced Digital Logic, Inc. > > http://www.digitallogic.ch Embedded PC Advantech > > http://www.advantech.com Aerotech http://www.aerothechusa.com > > Alacron http://www.alacron.com PCI, VME Algorythmic > > http://www.algor.co.uk PCI, ISA,PCMCIA Alphi Technology > > http://www.alphitech.com PCI PC/104 VME Alta Technology > > http://www.altatech.com PCI Mezzanine AM Reasearch > > http://www.amresearch.com Embedded Control American Predator > > http://www.americanpreditor.com Ampro Computers > > http://www.ampro.com PC, PC104, EBX analog devices > > http://www.analog.com antona http://www.antona.com Apex Embedded > > Systems http://www.apexembedded.com Applied Data Systems > > http://www.flatpanels.com WinCE Flatpanels Applied Integrations > > http://www.appliedi.com Appor http://www.appro.com network > > appliances Arbor Technology http://www.arbor.com.tw/main/htm > > pc/104 Arcom Control Systems http://www.arcom.co.uk/eg3 Arise > > http://www.arisecomputer.com/http://www.araise.com Ashware > > http://www.ashware.com TPU Atlas Communication Engines > > http://www.ace360.com Avantech http://www.avantech.com > > Pentium AVR Sprint http://www.embedsys.com Axiom Manufacturing > > http://www.axman.com Axiom Technology > > http://www.axiomtek.com pci, Data acquisition, > > pentium > > Bagotronix http://www.bagotronix.com Embedded Control -188 > > Basicon Inc. http://www.basicon.com Bipom http://www.bipom.com > > 8051 Bittware Research Systems http://www.bittware.com Blue > > earth research http://www.blueearthresearch.com 8051, > > 8052, Basic > > > > boser http://www.boser.com x86 > > BVM limited http://www.bvmltd.com > > Carlo Gavazzi http://www.carlogavazzi.com > > Catalyst Enterprises http://www.catalyst-ent.com > > Celerity Systems http://www.csidaq.com > > Cell Computing http://www.cellcomputing.com > > CETIA http://www.cetia.com > > Cetia http://www.cetia.com > > Coactive networks http://www.coactive.com > > COMARK http://www.comarkcorp.com > > CompuLab http://www.compulab.co.il PC 486CORE > > Concur systems http://www.concursys.com > > Connecticut Micro computers http://www.2cmc.com networking > > and swiches Corelis http://www.corelis.com Cyclone Microsystems > > http://www.cyclone.com cPCI PCI VME Densan http://www.densan.com > > cPCI VME Densitron http://www.densitron.com rugged, > > pentium Digital OEM Business Segment > > http://www.digital.com/info/oem Dy 4 Systems inc > > http://www.dy4.com VME SBC Dynamic Engineering > > mezzanine, PC/104,PCI Dynatem http://www.dynatem.com VME SBC EMAC > > http://www.emacinc.com 188 x86+F37 Embedded Support Tools Corp > > http://www.estc.com dev tools Embedex http://www.embedex.com > > Embedtec http://www.embedetec.com PCI ISA EMJ > > emjembedded.com PC104 EMS http://www.embededde-pc104.com PC104 > > Epson Electornic http://www.eea.epson.com Expert Electronics > > http://www.expert-tw.com Force Computers > > http://www.forcecomputers.com Gateworks > > http://www.gateworks.com General Micro Systems > > http://www.gms4vme.com VME SBC Sparc Sbus coldfire Gespac > > http://www.gespac.com Global American http://www.global American.inc > > Hectronic http://www.hectronic.com HiTech Equipment Corp > > http://www.hte.com SBC Emmulators 188 8051 Ibase > > http://www.ibase-I.com.tw pc104 I-Bus http://www.ibus.com > > Industrial Computers http://www.or-computers.com Industrial CPU > > Systems http://www.icpu.com Inside Technolgy USA > > http://www.inside-us.com Intec Automation > > http://www.steroidmicro.com embedded Power PC Interlogic > > http://www.infoview.com SBC Backplanes, VME Itox > > http://www.itox.com JED Microsystems jedmicro.com > > Jkmicrosystems http://www.jkmicro.com Dos Linux KG Systems > > http://www.kgsystems.com tiny tiger Kinnetic Computers Corp > > http://www.kin.com wirelwess WinCE Lanner > > http://www.lannerinc.com ISA PC/104 PICmg Libbert > > http://www.libbert-at.com consultant, developer industrial sys > > MATRIX corp. http://www.matrix.com Rugged WinCE MCSI > > http://www.mcsi1.com CP Compatible Megatel Computer Corp > > http://www.megatel.ca PCI PC/104 -332 Micro Computer Specialists > > http://www.mcsil.com micro Design http://www.microdesignco.com > > PCI PC/104 Micro Industries http://www.microindustries.com > > Micro Vention http://www.microvention.com micro bench tool kit > > for home > > embedded > > elec > > Micro/sys http://www.embeddedsys.com PC/104 Pentium Small > > 8051 Microbus http://www.microbus.com Microdigital software > > software Micromint http://www.micromint.com > > embedded modems, TCP/IP RTC BCC > > PicStic > > Midwest Micro-Tek http://www.midwestmicro-tek.com 188 > > controller > > used by Artcturus > > Momentum computers http://www.momenco.com VME compactPCI > > Mosaic Industries http://www.mosaic-industries.com touch > > Motorola Computer group http://www.mcg.mot.com MVS > > http://www.mvsweb.com National Instruments http://www.natinst.com > > measurement New Micros, Inc. http://www.newmicros.com > > Forth Nu Horizons http://www.nuhorizons.com passive > > components manufactured > > by Nippon > > Industries Co., Ltd > > nucleus http://www.nucleus1.com > > Octagon Systems http://www.octagonsystems.com rugged, palm, PC104 > > (bad guys) OKW electronics http://www.okwelectronics.com Onset > > http://www.onsetcomp.com data loggers, -332 O'S systems > > http://www.ossystems.net Paralax http://www.paralaxinc.com > > Hobbiest, PIC PC engines http://www.pcengines.com Pep Modular > > Computers http://www. Phytec http://www.phytec.com/USAmerica/ > > 8051 x86 PLC http://www.tri-plc.com modbus distributed control > > system Pond http://www.pond.ie quake Modular technologies > > http://www.hypertechnologies.com Rabbit Rabbitsemiconductor.com > > Core tool modules with ethernet Radisys http://www.radisys.com > > Pentium "total communication solution" Real Time Devices > > http://www.rtduse.com Recortec http://www.recortec.com > > Pentium Remote Processing > > http://www.remotep.com,http://www.RP3.com > > measurement 188 > > RES http://www.RS485.com > > Rigel http://www.rigelcorp.com 8051 > > RLC http://www.rlc.com > > RMV http://www.RMV.com > > SBC Designs http://www.sbcdesigns.com scsi, RAID > > SBS http://www.sbs.com > > Sea level http://www.sealevel.com > > Sinetic http://www.sinetics.com rugged > > Sirius Microsystems http://www.siriusmicro.com Pic Tools > > Site Player http://www.siteplayer.com data acquisition Sky > > Computers http://www.sky.com Smart Modular Technologies > > http://www.smartm.com Falsh 500 products Square1 > > http://www.square1industries.com celeron, 786 steatite > > http://www.staetite.co.uk Pentium synergy micro systems > > http://www.synergymicro.com PCI, VME Systran > > http://www.systran.com DSP Technoland http://www.technoland.com > > Technologic Systems http://www.t-systems.com Teknor Industrial > > Computers, Inc. http://www.teknor.com PC on Board tempustech > > http://www.tempustech.com Tern http://www.tern.com > > microcontrollers -188 Themis Computer http://www.themis.com SPARC > > VME Toronto Microelectronics - TME http://www.tme-inc.com Trenton > > http://www.trentonprocessors.com ISA PCI Triangle > > Reasearch http://www.tri-plc.com PLC uclinux > > http://www.uclinux.com linux coldfire Versa Logic > > http://www.versalogic.com PC/104, STD32BUS Vesta Technology > > http://www.vestatech.com versatile PIC based, low > > power, w/ > > powerful Basic & animated remote debug. web site contains > > schematics, datasheets, and manuals vigilant > > http://www.vigilanttech.com PMC Motion Vista Controls Corp. > > http://www.vistacc.com > > > > VMIC http://www.vmic.com > > Weeder weedtech.com/ modular motion control > > Win Enterprise http://www.win-ent.com PC 104 WinCE > > windriver software > > Winsys http://www.winsystems.com PC/104 > > xtech http://www.xtechusa.com > > ZF Microsystems http://www.zfmicro.com > > Ziatech http://www.ziatech.com 1999 cPCI DSL sales $80million > > Z-World http://www.zworld.com embedded control & ethernet, -188 & > > -074* zykronix http://www.zykronix.com PC compatible > > > > -Mina Nichols > > Vesta Technology > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Russell McMahon > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:27 AM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: [EE]: Microcontroller selector guides > > > > I'm on the search again for a microcontroller for a project. > > > > Has anyone got a reference to a selector guide which covers the > > features of a wide range of avail;able processors in a single place. > > Everyone is happy (enough) to tell you what they sell but you can > > spend a lot of time looking for all reasonable alternatives. > > > > FWIW my spec is > > > > Cost sensitive - ideally <= $US1 in 10k quantity > > > > MUST have 1 channel of 5 kHz real-time PWM capability. Resolution > > COULD be as low as around 5% steps but finer would be better (say 8 > > bits). [5 kHz at 5% duty cycle is 10 uS per step so one might ALMOST > > do this in software with a suitably fast cpu but as there are > > several realtimish tasks a timer based PWM is much preferred]. A > > second PWM channel would be nice but is not essential. > > > > A2D (8 bit OK) would be extremely desirable but not strictly > > essential > > > > Flash would be nice but OTP ok > > > > EEROM would be nice but not essential > > > > RC clock operation desirable. > > > > Anti brownout and inbuilt power on reset desirable. > > > > Cost sensitive > > > > UART nice but not .... > > > > IIC not really needed but if it was there ... > > > > Code memory of 1K probably OK. > > > > Limited RAM needed. > > > > Cost sensitive ... :-) > > > > SOIC packaging for production. Availability of DIP for initial > > prototyping would be useful. > > > > Reasonable (ie low $ or free :-) ) priced development tools > > desirable. Assembler OK, free or cheap C etc would not be unwelcome. > > > > OTP / Flash and mask versions would be useful. > > > > Manufacturer not in Chapter 11 or any variant thereof would be nice > > :-) > > > > Technically responsive supplier would be useful. > > > > My feeling is that any PIC which meets the hardware spec tends to > > fail the price spec. > > > > Russell McMahon > > _____________________________ > > > > -- > > http://http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply > > us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the > > body > > > > -- > > http://http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply > > us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the > > body > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Rolf wrote: > > > > > Great list Mina. I don't suppose you have it in HTML or a URL to get > > > to it. Cut and paste is sooooo arcane . And if people would put > > > http:// in front of any URLs posted, they become hotlinks in most > > > modern email clients, as in http://www.vestatech.com > > > > > > Thanks for the list. > > > > > > R > > > > > > Mina Nichols wrote: > > > > > > > > HI. > > > > EG3 http://www.cera2.com/index.html is pretty popular but I don't > > > > like them because their rating systems is very much influenced by > > > > paid ads. Of course magazines buyer's guides tend to have lots of > > > > information laid out in detailed charts, but they are also > > > > inclined to only tell you about companies that have paid their > > > > fees, besides, either yo get the mag or you don't. You can't just > > > > go find it when you need it. My company, Vesta Techonolgy makes > > > > versatile, low-power, pic-based SBCs and I think that we do an > > > > excellent job of giving you all the information you might want on > > > > our web site (but then I maintain the web site, so I'm biased). > > > > our site is www.vestatech.com. sorry I don't have a perfect answer > > > > for you. However I do have this nifty chart of our competitors > > > > and their web sites: Company Web site Key words AAEON > > > > Electronics www.aaeon.com PC/104 > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > > > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > > > > > > > Brent Brown > Electronic Design Solutions > 16 English Street > Hamilton, New Zealand > Ph/fax: +64 7 849 0069 > Mobile/txt: 025 334 069 > eMail: brent.brown@clear.net.nz > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics