> Is it possible that 16F84 will work without a crystal, and only with a > resistor and a capacitor > clocking the OSC1 with OCS2 disconnected? RTFM? It is called RC oscillator mode. Cheap and reliable, but not very accurate. Some PICs even haven the R+C on chip. Wouter van Ooijen Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl Jal compiler for PIC uC's: http://www.voti.nl/jal PICs kopen? http://www.voti.nl/shop -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads