> > How did you come to this sad state of affairs ? > > Work party :) > > Jon They have those in...(gasp)...prison don't they ? Are you getting your Christmas dinner on a tin tray this year ? > Regards getting them [lava lamps] to do something I saw a > web site ages ago where a guy described setting up serveral > laval lamps next to each other and watching them with a cam > on his computer- he used the data from the images when he > wanted a random number sequence- he was probably just > using it for an excuse but it sounded cool at the time Yeah, sounds a little extreme for RNG. But he was thinking outside the square, and that's where new stuff comes from Pick two things at random (if you have several lava lamps that is) from pages of an electronic dictionary, then try to come up with a product that connects or uses both of them. The results aren't always marketable, but it's good daydream material and gets those neurons working -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics