Hello, I need the lists knowledge of RS485 to answer a hopefully simple question - can I use extra pairs in a Cat5 cable to power several RS485 nodes? More details below (long). I'm creating a small RS485 network in my home to monitor temperatures, humidity, water leaks and a few security sensors (using PICs of course). The nodes are relatively simple, however I am somewhat at a loss on how to power them. The simplest solution is of course a wall wart on each node, however I want the nodes to look "clean", that is no wires hanging outside the walls, very similar to an air conditioning thermostat housing. I plan to run a daisy-chain of Cat5 cable to each node. Now the question. Has anyone ever run power to RS485 nodes on unused pairs of Cat5 cable? Is this a no-no? The power requirements are relatively low, < 100mA each node during transmission, maybe 10 - 20 mA at other times, x 6 to 8 nodes. I'm thinking a small supply, either AC or preferably DC (to reduce parts count on each node) at the start of the cable is a possible solution, i.e., a DC supply of sufficient voltage to cover power losses, L di/dt, etc., with a LDO regulator at each node. Is this poor design Vcm wise, etc? I've seen many RS485 designs use 100 ohm resistors in series with the ground connection to limit common mode current. Are they really needed on a "small" installation (300 feet, internal to one building). If needed, they sort of mess up the idea of using DC. Any thoughts, suggestions? Thanks in advance. Ken -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu