On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Roman Black wrote: > Peter L. Peres wrote: > > > > > One really cheap method is to use a 5w resistor, > > > the white ceramic wire-wound type. > > > > Hm. there usually have 300 to 500ppm/deg temperature coefficient. This is > > not so good. But there is an even cheaper method I've used (and still > > use). Use a tiny signal lamp rated maybe 30mA and 24V. This is around 800 > > Ohms when lit. When cold it is typically 1/2 to 1/10 of that. Use as a > > RTD. It is good to almost 700C when the glass softens. I usually hold them > > above a mild gas flame in tweezers until the bulb is drawn by the vacuum > > and contacts the filament (on all sides). This reduces the time constant. > > Use twiddled or compression connections or point weld. Solder won't work! > > > Cool! An excellent idea, and with the interesting > "glass-blower" approach is very interesting. So you > modify the bulb to become a special purpose temp > sensor? > Does it matter if the bulb vacuum fails? > of course ! The wolfram filament is covering with oxide at high temperature and the resistance is changing The method is good but have a little non-linear response. Checked with small bulb ( those used inside an electronic hand clock ). Another problem is aging; But is a nice trick ! Vasile -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.