Peter L. Peres wrote: > > > One really cheap method is to use a 5w resistor, > > the white ceramic wire-wound type. > > Hm. there usually have 300 to 500ppm/deg temperature coefficient. This is > not so good. But there is an even cheaper method I've used (and still > use). Use a tiny signal lamp rated maybe 30mA and 24V. This is around 800 > Ohms when lit. When cold it is typically 1/2 to 1/10 of that. Use as a > RTD. It is good to almost 700C when the glass softens. I usually hold them > above a mild gas flame in tweezers until the bulb is drawn by the vacuum > and contacts the filament (on all sides). This reduces the time constant. > Use twiddled or compression connections or point weld. Solder won't work! Cool! An excellent idea, and with the interesting "glass-blower" approach is very interesting. So you modify the bulb to become a special purpose temp sensor? Does it matter if the bulb vacuum fails? The larger resistance (10k+) wire wound resistors use a very fine nichrome wire and over 100'C they are quite usable for temp trip points and some low res temp measuring. :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.