Hi, Just out of curiousity are there any user of the above software around in the pic world. Its just that I see lots of mention of VB, but not of the above. I use Delphi quite extensively in my job at Kanda with GUI work, and C++ builder with any compiler/console apps that I work on. I have in the past found a few American customers that had not even heard of Borland/Inprise. Is the Delphi C++ Builder use a European thing. I find that US customers who want sourcecode with their work prefer MS Visiual C++, if you've used C++ builder then you'll know what I mean when I say, I hate all the API stuff that this requires. Bryan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 2001-12-05 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads