Russell McMahon wrote: > > In due course maybe. > But first he intends to take out all the manned "time to altitude" records > in the next few years - but not with the craft you see there. That is just a > concept investigator. They have 2 unmanned versions flying so far. > "From the people who brought you Doom" :-) (seriously!) As much respect as I have for the Carmack brothers and their amazing programming abilities I doubt John's (and staffs) mechanical engineering skills looking at some of their "flying machine" prototypes. Why put the payload on top and the four rockets on the base at floor level?? Surely hang the payload or pilot at the bottom and the rocket structure at the top, the rockets are quite far out from the axis so it will fix so many of their stability and landing ground effect feedback problems. I was designing flying machines from about 8 years old and never would have made a silly mistake like that. Always HANG your CG weight below your lift engines if at all possible guys. And why so many engines?? Why not a central lift engine, in the middle with the payload divided in two and hanging lower and to the front and rear, giving neutrally stable lift with minimum attitude compensation needed?? ONE rocket lift engine, some ducting system for attitude adjustment etc. From their web site I sensed a whole "we have no clue but we'll try this and see what happens" attitude. I really appreciate anyone trying to develop new and wonderful tech stuff but they are in dire need of someone who has built mechanical stuff THAT WORKS for about 20 years. Their whole flying platform concept seems to be based on a totally ridiculous mechanical system trying to rely on very fast software to compensate for all its flaws and hopefully make it fly. :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu