On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Russell McMahon wrote: > > Not any cars in any cities anywhere near me. I don't think most people > > around hre, for example, would use an open 12MPH scooter for a year-round, > > 10+ mile commute -- and that's in a medium-small city. We have snow, > > rain, winds, traffic, and I haven't noticed my house moving any closer to > > my office (or anywhere near my office suddenly becoming a viable pace to > > live). > > Probably not, but they noted that the average vehicle speed in London is > lower than the top speed of the Ginger. But in London you'd have to go slow anyway so as not to ruin the umbrella, correct? I spend *part* of my 8-mile commute to work stopped or at a slow crawl, the rest between 40 and 70MPH. Max 15 to 20 minutes on a bad day. On a 12MPH scooter - no thanks. But hey, I live in the Midwest USA. I'm sure it would make more sense in, say, NY or DC... oh, wait, no, people there have **LONG** commutes. LA? Err... maybe not. No doubt there are people for whom a scooter might make sense... of course most of them can't afford and/or wouldn't put up with the hassle of Ginger. As long as both work and home are completely barrier-free (cause I'm not lugging that thing up stairs) it's a workable solution. And it's got to be a *short* commute. Of course, I have to live somewhere with weather conducive to riding an open scooter year round. Now there has to be enough cash in the budget to spend the equivalent price of a reliable used car on a new, very high tech, absurdly expensive to repair gizmo instead of a $500 electric or gas scooter. OK, so there IS a market for Ginger, but it's so very narrow and limited that I think the people claiming this will revolutionize the whole world are trying very, very hard to sell something. Thinking this toy will replace any significant number of cars is -- well, a little naieve. If that were going to happen the Honda Spree or the Vespa before it would have already done the job. Dale -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics