If you don't need DC you can use an op amp as a feed to a PC sound card with the correct levels - there are lots of virtual oscilloscope programs available and most hobby electronics companies have a cheap design available for home construction. If you do need just very basic DC you can use a few comparitors into various AC generators in front of the sound card pre amp - 1] Several oscillators - 0V gives a low tone, 3V gives an intermediate and 5 V a high tone (audible as well as visible on the PC screen. 2] A low amplitude, highish frequency tone (appears as a thick line on oscilloscope program) can be mixed with the output of preset amplifiers (The line is level shifted). The first is often best for PICs, especially if you monitor the audio, you can quickly get to recognize Lo, Hi, rail-to-rail pulses, rail-to-mid pulses, etc. Bye. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Dribin [mailto:dave-ml@DRIBIN.ORG] Sent: 05 December 2001 07:14 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [BUY]: Cheap, beginner's scope Hello, I'm looking at getting an oscilloscope for myself, but I don't want to spend a ton. Plus, I won't be using it that much. I'd file it under the "nice to have" category. I doubt I will be doing any high speed circuits or anything. I'll probably use it mostly on digital logical and computer peripheral interfaces (PS/2, etc.). Could anyone recommend a good beginners scope around the $300-$500 range? I don't mind looking at used stuff on eBay, but I don't know enough to not get screwed. Bitscope looked interesting, too. Has anyone had experiences with it? http://www.bitscope.com/ Thanks, -Dave -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics