> Realistically speaking....there's no way to avoid spam... > Everybody gets it... > You would get it anyway...even without the Piclist. Realistically speaking: 1) Assuming a fictitious identity is not legal in most places. 2) Having a non-functional return address is as bad as 1). 3) Having a valid return address that belongs to someone else amounts to impersonation and is also illegal. There will always be more people affected by spam than the number of people who send it, therefore it should be legally and democratically be condemned to be wiped out! If you really want, you can think up at least 3 legal ways and at least 3 technical ways to get rid of spam. I have been using procmail scripts and the same email address since 1996 or before, and it took 5 years for the spam to catch up (but not quite). The system logs show that the filters do a good job most of the time. However this is a stopgap, not a solution. Spamming heavily is a form of electronic warfare and a form of terrorism. It can bring down networks or be a denial of service attack. The powers that be should take this very seriously imho, asap. Especially when the origin is in third world countries not necessarily friendly to the receivers of the mail. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics