Thank you to everyone for replying. I was actually going to use the PIC as an I2C interface for the floppy drive for my project. I think I'll switch to an IDE system because a) less $$$/mb and b) easier to do. In case anyone was wondering my project is a modular Intelligent Watch/Wearable Computer so the extra disk space would be very useful. Thanks, Timothy Stranex timot@btgnet.co.za Harold M Hallikainen wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:01:20 -0500 Byron A Jeff > writes: > > > > ...FLOPPIES SUCK!!! > > > > There, now I've sait it. The list of problems are myriad: > > > > - Too slow > > - Too small > > Do you really need to save 100MB out of a PIC? > > > - Prone to media failure > > Never been much of a problem for me. > > > - Drives have minimal control electronics > > - Controllers are now hard to find because they are embedded in PC > > chipsets > > Agreed! I've put a National PC84778 on a board, but have not yet written > any code for it (and don't know when I will, but the board's ready!). > > > - Standalone controllers have interface and timing complexity > > issues. > > - And of course the one you've already run across: lack of > > information. > > > > Now it's unfair to rant and run, so just in case you're open to > > other > > avenues, let me throw out a couple: > > > > 1) IDE Zip drives. While I admit they do have media failure issues, > > they win > > in every other category. 100 MB, reasonably fast, embedded control > > electronics > > and rock solid standard interface. Drives are priced little more > > than floppies > > at this point. The last time I bought they were $35 US. Media is > > pricy but > > comes out to about the same price/MB as floppy ($7 US for a 100MB > > Zip disk as > > opposed to $15 or so for 100 floppies). Same form factor and about > > the same > > power requirements. And most importantly since it's IDE the PIC->IDE > > code > > that's out there applies. > > > > Again, do you need to save 100MB out of a PIC? I've got PIC stuff where > I've attached 128 KB of nonvolatile static RAM and would like removable > storage for that. Floppy seems ideal, except for writing the code to talk > to the controller! So, even though the price/MB for ZIP may be the same > as for floppy, we just don't need that many MB. The last 3.5 inch FD I > bought was $8. The floppies themselves are something like 15 to 25 cents. > > But, again, the code to drive the darn thing doesn't exist... > > > 2) Compact Flash. Other than pricy media, it's nearly perfect. Solid > > state, > > compact (hence the name ;-), IDE interface, and a myriad of > > inexpensive > > PC interface options (parallel, IDE, floppy, USB). No media failure > > issues > > and because many digital camera's and the like use them there's a > > lot of parts > > available. > > > > As you say, pricey! > > Harold > > FCC Rules Online at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules > Lighting control for theatre and television at http://www.dovesystems.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body