Hi, I am trying to program a pic16f628 with the warp13a programmer, the windows software driver is version 1.04.00. I have only programmed the F84 and F84A before, but have not had any problems. I have several of the F628 chips and have tried two different chips ? I tried Jim's site, www.new-elect.com, but it has been down for a couple of days. Any suggestions on what the problem could be would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kevin -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.