(Resent because of misspelled tag, sorry) I think it is only playing dead Maybe some brilliant person here have a clue, I have exhausted my clues on= this... I have tried to change cells in old battery packs for the laptop Compaq= Armada 7730MT. Theese packs have built in electronics, a ridicoulous amount of SMT= components including lots of IC. I know they are for protecting the pack= from being under and overcharged, but still seem more than plenty. Anyway, after changing the cells, the pack still plays dead; do not take= charge, and do not deliver after manually directly charging the cells= either. This is strange! Are theese battery packs designed to play dead after cells are replaced? (So Compac can sell new expensive packs) Or is it just a design flaw? Anyway, any ideas to get them working? Seems like all electronics is shut down; I can nowhere among the chips find= any supply voltage. Maybe it needs to have a small voltage from the cell= at any time to keep powering itself. How to start it then? I tried to short the battery plus to plus connector pole (minus is common)= and then the pushbutton activated built in LED battery charge meter is= working, but when placed in the laptop, the laptop starts up, beeps some= times and then shuts off... The connector to the laptop have two large pins, plus and minus, and then= four small pins terminated with 10 ohms resistor, apparently some signal or= communication, maybe serial. Maybe it needs to be talked to first time= after power up, and get it loaded with battery parameters etc? I really got no idea about how to continue now. This have happened two times now both a Compaq Armada 7730MT: First time a friends Compaq gave up, letting the smoke out of the power= supply and a cap on the main board, replacing them made it live up, but the= battery pack still dead. It had been dead for a while so some cells have= shorted so I replaced them but the pack was still dead, so I reckonned the= cirqiut board somehow got damaged by the power supply, or it broke taking= the supply with it. Today, I replaced the cells in my girlfriends laptop battery pack, and now= that pack is dead too... Regards /Morgan=20 Morgan Olsson http://www.morgansreglerteknik.se morgans.rt@telia.com, tel +46(0)414-446620, fax -672324 Morgans Reglerteknik AB, H=E4llek=E5s, 277 35 KIVIK, SWEDEN -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu