> 'smart carts'. It looks like they simply have an nvram on the cart Wouldn't be hard to bury an SMT IC in the case. But how would the printer know that it was a refill ? Something must happen in the refilling process to change the cartridge I helped a friend defeat his Xerox (I think) copier that had a page counter. It would stop when the "recommended" number of pages had been printed using the current cartridge, even if there was still oodles of toner left. The hack was to simply zero the page-counting EEPROM in the copier. Eventually the toner would run out but he was happy enough to get that 30% "extra" that he'd paid for -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu