> What I'd reasoned was that at the point of impact you as a vehicle have > deccelerated from 75 to 0 and stopped at exacty the same point you > would have if you'd hit a stationary wall. Hmmm, still not convinced > about that "combined speed" thing :-) As for deceleration, you'd be right. But imagine being a wall, in a stationary position, and having a car hit you at 75mph. You wouldn't move, or change speeds, you're at 0 mph at all times. It would still hurt right? :-) Basically in the "combined speed" case there is twice as much energy (in the form of kinetic energy) that has to go somewhere, and now both cars absorb that amount. In the case of one car vs. a wall there is only half of that amount of kinetic energy. However the wall will feel it just as much as the car :) You could say that half of your kinetic energy is transferred to the object you hit, so if you hit another car you receive half it's energy plus your own half, in the case of a wall you only get your own half and none of the wall because it has none (it is not moving). Of course it is not exactly half, it all depends on the type of object, its mass compared to yours, etc. Obviously if you're a VW and hit a bicycle at a combined speed of 100mph it'll be a different experience than hitting a big truck at that speed :) Also a wall is a bad object to hit because it usually does not move or buckle (so you absorb most of the impact), whereas another car would at least "bounce" back a bit and forces are more equally distributed. Best thing to do though is not crash at all! Regards, Dennis -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body