> Here in NL there are over 2000 !! yes 2000 af those > speedtraps. > These cameras get to action when your drive 3 Km/h > near 2 mph to fast...... > Do you view your speedometer at alltimes ? > I must honiest say, iam not ..... Serious suggestion: An accurate audible warning speedometer alarm seems like a sensible option in such cases. This would not stop you speeding but would warn you so that you would never do it by accident. Such a device is trivially easy to build for most speedometers. A little complexity would allow pleasant brief tones repeated only occasionally to prevent annoyance if ongoing above-limit driving was desired. Then at least the problem mentioned above would not exist. Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics