How about having a broken gas gauge that always reads empty and have = poor ignition system that requires 10 seconds of cranking? They will = think the car is out of gas. Also, use $20 boombox instead of a car stereo. It's working so far. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads