Maybe I need to set up every known operating system to man and have a couple of different hardware platforms, take a MSCE course and become a proficient computer engineer so that I can run software programs. I did manage to finally get the file updated by installing Windows 2000 and copying the file. But... when I boot to NT4, my C compiler did not work any more. No problem, just reinstall the C compiler and it goes again. But.. I have yet to learn what else does not go now. I recently purchased a digital video camera with still shot capability to take product photos for data sheets and found almost all models use USB. I check my machine and it has a USB port. Great, get home and run NT4 and no provision for USB port. I ring a computer tech and are advised that NT4 will not run USB. Gotcha... OK, then a friend supplies some software that WILL get USB going under NT4. Gotcha again.. only works on printers and certain hardware devices but not my camera. hmm, so now we install Windows 2000, add the new hardware and yipee.. we have transfer capability. But.. gotcha again, each time I boot to Windows 2000, I have to reinstall the USB driver to talk to the camera. The sequence now is.. Boot to Windows 2000 Reinstall USB driver with camera connected Download pics reboot machine to NT4 Process pics. Then I go to use serial ports and find some extra ports appear. ohh... this was due the the USB driver that didn't work. Obviuosly, a variety of you out there will know better than I do and offer all kinds of work arounds etc to get a better solution. My point is WHY should I need all this information to get pics from my camera or run a piece of software. I purchased the PCs as tolls to do a job, not to endlessly fiddle with and consume huge amounts of time and money. Simply speaking, I would buy a shovel to dig and would not want to become a mechanical engineer to get it to work as expected. I must admit, it does feel a whole lot better having a moan about this. Regards David Huisman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 26/10/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 26/10/01 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu