So you want to keep the speed limit high until it does happen? /Then/ when it happens you won't complain? I'd guess that you'd still complain and blame it on the kid or the driver, and say that normally it doesn't happen so the limit should be high. I'm just saying that I feel your reasoning is flawed. Perhaps there are better arguments for a high speed limit, but they probably don't outweigh the benefits. There is a concept called prevention. It's better to make changes now than reget problems later. Besides, how often did you actually go at or under the speed limit before it was lowered? Did everyone else go under the speed limit? Maybe they are using your reasoning, saying that people are going to go over the limit, so they might as well lower it so people actually do go more slowly, and they can ticket people at 35KPH instead of 5 over the previous limit. Aside from all that nit-picking, studies show that at 25MPH (pretty close to 30KPH) significantly fewer deaths result due to car accidents than at the next higher speed. It's not a matter of 'if' someone will be run into, it's a matter of 'when' and how bad it's going to be. At 30KPH most people live no matter how they were hit. Quite frankly I'm surprised that the speed limit was higher around the school previously. All our residential and school areas are 25MPH, unless there's fencing, or the school is set very far back from the road. Besides, how much time do you really waste now? Isn't it just the feeling of going slow that irritates you? As far as more deaths occuring on other roads, are those car-person collisions, or car-car collisions? If they are car-person, then I'd agree with you, the speed limit ought to be lowered. But for car-car collisions there is a point of diminishing returns. Sure, you could lower it to 30KPH, but you'd have the same number of accidents and deaths as you have at 60KPH. -Adam Patrick J wrote: > >We have never had a fatal accident infront of our schools here so >bearing that in mind its stupid to start setting even lower limits there >considering we have alot of ppl getting killed on other roads. >Why not start there ? (and what to do there is another thread :) > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics