> > Needless to say, I strongly disagree with this model. > > > I take it you are not a customer of Oracle then Dale ;-) I'm not, but my employer is. Not that I'm a proponent of it, mind you. I have not looked at an Oracle license, but I know even Veritas licenses the software in perpetuity. It's the support that costs an exhorbitant amount of money, and you have a choice on that part. Dale -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body