I remember driving a ~1960 automatic Jag that had a 'traffic brake'. With the engine running, selector in drive, pressure in the brake line and the vehicle stationary you could take your foot off the brake pedal because a simple hydrolic logic circuit would hold the brakes on. Touching the accelerator released the system. I loved it - 40 years ago. Its a great idea that is sorely missed today, especially with 40+ watts of high level brake lights in your face as you creep through a traffic jam. I wonder if some EE could perhaps develop a PIC circuit to reproduce it ??? And/or include it as part of an anti-theft system ? Bye. -----Original Message----- From: Alan B. Pearce [mailto:A.B.Pearce@RL.AC.UK] Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 19:16 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: Practical car theft schemes >To prevent it from being towed, I have always liked the valve in the brake >line trick. Apply the brake very hard, then the valve closes locking the >brakes on. Can't tow it if it doesn't roll. This will also prevent it >from being driven. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads