A good idea: cut the +battery cable under the hood and connect a 0.1Ohm 100A shunt across it, also a 100A contactor or switch. That car will never start until the contactor is closed, although everything else ought to work. Wonder how long it would take a 'professional' to find it. There are many variations on this theme. I happen to know that automatic gearboxes pull 8+A etc. The most important thing is to convince the b*** that it is hopeless. F.ex. allowing the engine to start and putting it out immediately several times (as soon as he releases the clutch pedal). All the time the interior lights on, horn and hifi blaring at full volume, perhaps a flasher added inside too. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu