Hi Bob, > Sorry to hear that. Debit cards are quite common over here. I had expected > that they'd be common elsewhere in the world as well. > Many banks (and other credit companies) here offer secured credit cards as > well. You make a cash deposit to secure the company's risk and they issue > you a card with a limit based on the amount of that deposit. Are those used > in Au or is that another US thing? Are you kidding, most of the banks here want you to use their money so they can shaft you with their interest rates (I am cynical) I am going to try a few building societies and community banks tomorrow (as I want to buy stuff over the net from suppliers and not use their AU rip off agents) Regards, Kat. ____________________________________________________________________________ /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | K.A.Q. Electronics \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | Software and Electronic Engineering X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Perth Western Australia / \ | Ph +61 419 923 731 ____________________________________________________________________________ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu